The fifth of six summings-up that P T Forsyth gives in the sixth chapter of his book, The Work of Christ (page 150)
What we have in Christ's work is not the mere prerequisite or condition of reconciliation, but the actual and final effecting of it in principle. He was not making it possible, he was doing it. We are spiritually in a reconciled world, we are not merely in a world in process of empirical reconciliation. Our experience of religion is experience of a thing done once for all, for ever, and for the world. That is, it is more than even experience, it is a faith. The same act as put God's forgiveness on a moral foundation also revolutionized humanity. Hence we are not disposed to speak of substitution so much as of representation. But it is representation by one who creates by his act the humanity he represents, and does not merely sponsor it. The same act as disburdens us of guilt commits us to a new life. Our Saviour in his salvation is not only our comfort but our power; not merely our rescuer but our new life. His work is in the same act reclamation as well as rescue.
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Saturday, November 02, 2013
Moral and not official
The sixth of six summings-up that P T Forsyth gives in the sixth chapter of his book, The Work of Christ (pages 151/2). There is a seventh, much longer, point, which I won't include here.
Another thing may perhaps be taken as recognised in some form by the main line of judicious advance in our subject. The work of Christ was moral and not official. It was the energy and victory of his own moral personality, and not simply the filling of a position, the discharge of an office he held. His victory was not due to his rank, but to his will and conscience. It lay in his faithfulness to the uttermost amid temptations morally real and psychologically relevant to what he was. It was a work that drew on his whole personality as a moral necessity of it. What he did he did not simply in the room and stead of others. He did it as a necessity of his own person also - though its effect for them was not what it was for him. He fulfilled an obligation under which his own personality lay; he did not simply pay the debts of other people. He fulfilled a personal vocation.
And his faithfulness was not only to a vocation. It was to a special vocation, that of redeemer, not merely a saint. The immediate source of his suffering was not the sight of human sin, and it was not a general holiness in him. It was not the quivering of the saint's purity at the touch of evil. But it was the suffering of one who touched sin as the redeemer. He would not have suffered for sin as he did, had he not faced it as its destroyer. Not only was this his vocation as a moral hero, but his special vocation as Saviour. It was the work of a moral personality at the heart of the race, of one who concentrated on a special yet universal task - that of redemption.
His perfection was not that of a paragon, one who could do better what every soul and genius of the race could do well. He was not all the powers and excellencies of mankind rolled into one superman. But his perfection was that of the race's redeemer. It was inferior to all other powers and achievements.It was central both for God and man. He made man's centre and God's coincide. He took mankind at its centre and laid it on the centre of God. His identification with man was not extensive but intensive, it was not discursive and parallel, so to say. It was morally central and creative. He was not humanity on its divine side; he was its new life from the inside. The problem he had to solve was the supreme and central moral problem of guilt; and the work could only be done by the native action of a personality moral in its nature and methods, moral to the pitch of the Holy.
It is an immense gain thus to construe Christs' work as that of a moral personality instead of a heavenly functionary. It brings it into line with the modern mind and into organic union with the moral problem of the race. It enables us to realise that every step of the moral victory in his life was a step also in the redemption of the whole human conscience. And we grasp with a new power the idea that his crowning victory of the Cross was the victory in principle of the whole race in him - that justification is really one with reconciliation, and what he did before God contained all he was to do on man. It makes possible for us what my last lecture will attempt to indicate - a unitary view of his whole work and person.
Graphic courtesy of Jeanie Rhoades/Thought Collage.
Another thing may perhaps be taken as recognised in some form by the main line of judicious advance in our subject. The work of Christ was moral and not official. It was the energy and victory of his own moral personality, and not simply the filling of a position, the discharge of an office he held. His victory was not due to his rank, but to his will and conscience. It lay in his faithfulness to the uttermost amid temptations morally real and psychologically relevant to what he was. It was a work that drew on his whole personality as a moral necessity of it. What he did he did not simply in the room and stead of others. He did it as a necessity of his own person also - though its effect for them was not what it was for him. He fulfilled an obligation under which his own personality lay; he did not simply pay the debts of other people. He fulfilled a personal vocation. And his faithfulness was not only to a vocation. It was to a special vocation, that of redeemer, not merely a saint. The immediate source of his suffering was not the sight of human sin, and it was not a general holiness in him. It was not the quivering of the saint's purity at the touch of evil. But it was the suffering of one who touched sin as the redeemer. He would not have suffered for sin as he did, had he not faced it as its destroyer. Not only was this his vocation as a moral hero, but his special vocation as Saviour. It was the work of a moral personality at the heart of the race, of one who concentrated on a special yet universal task - that of redemption.
His perfection was not that of a paragon, one who could do better what every soul and genius of the race could do well. He was not all the powers and excellencies of mankind rolled into one superman. But his perfection was that of the race's redeemer. It was inferior to all other powers and achievements.It was central both for God and man. He made man's centre and God's coincide. He took mankind at its centre and laid it on the centre of God. His identification with man was not extensive but intensive, it was not discursive and parallel, so to say. It was morally central and creative. He was not humanity on its divine side; he was its new life from the inside. The problem he had to solve was the supreme and central moral problem of guilt; and the work could only be done by the native action of a personality moral in its nature and methods, moral to the pitch of the Holy.
It is an immense gain thus to construe Christs' work as that of a moral personality instead of a heavenly functionary. It brings it into line with the modern mind and into organic union with the moral problem of the race. It enables us to realise that every step of the moral victory in his life was a step also in the redemption of the whole human conscience. And we grasp with a new power the idea that his crowning victory of the Cross was the victory in principle of the whole race in him - that justification is really one with reconciliation, and what he did before God contained all he was to do on man. It makes possible for us what my last lecture will attempt to indicate - a unitary view of his whole work and person.
Graphic courtesy of Jeanie Rhoades/Thought Collage.
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Tuesday, October 29, 2013
The effecting of reconciliation
The fifth of six summings-up that P T Forsyth gives in the sixth chapter of his book, The Work of Christ (pages 150/1)
What we have in Christ's work is not the mere prerequisite or condition of reconciliation, but the actual and final effecting of it in principle. He was not making it possible, he was doing it. We are spiritually in a reconciled world, we are not merely in a world in process of empirical reconciliation. Our experience of religion is experience of a thing done once for all, for ever, and for the world. That is, it is more than even experience, it is a faith. The same act as put God's forgiveness on a moral foundation also revolutionized humanity. Hence we are not disposed to speak of substitution* so much as of representation. But it is representation by one who creates by his act the humanity he represents, and does not merely sponsor it. The same act as disburdens us of guilt commits us to a new life. Our Saviour is his salvation is not only our comfort but our power; not merely our rescuer but our new life. His work is in the same act reclamation as well as rescue.
*Because substitution does not take account of the moral results on the soul, and for a full account of the cause we must include all the effects. To do justice to the whole of Christ's work we must include the Church, and in justification include sanctification. [Forsyth's own footnote]
For me this is one of the prime paragraphs in the book. While Forsyth goes into a lot more detail about what he's saying he, this is a wonderful summing-up of much of what he says.
What we have in Christ's work is not the mere prerequisite or condition of reconciliation, but the actual and final effecting of it in principle. He was not making it possible, he was doing it. We are spiritually in a reconciled world, we are not merely in a world in process of empirical reconciliation. Our experience of religion is experience of a thing done once for all, for ever, and for the world. That is, it is more than even experience, it is a faith. The same act as put God's forgiveness on a moral foundation also revolutionized humanity. Hence we are not disposed to speak of substitution* so much as of representation. But it is representation by one who creates by his act the humanity he represents, and does not merely sponsor it. The same act as disburdens us of guilt commits us to a new life. Our Saviour is his salvation is not only our comfort but our power; not merely our rescuer but our new life. His work is in the same act reclamation as well as rescue. *Because substitution does not take account of the moral results on the soul, and for a full account of the cause we must include all the effects. To do justice to the whole of Christ's work we must include the Church, and in justification include sanctification. [Forsyth's own footnote]
For me this is one of the prime paragraphs in the book. While Forsyth goes into a lot more detail about what he's saying he, this is a wonderful summing-up of much of what he says.
Sunday, October 20, 2013
Changeless
The first of six summings-up that P T Forsyth does in the sixth chapter of his book, The Work of Christ.
Reconciliation is not the result of a change in God from wrath to love. It flows from the changeless will of a loving God. No other view could make the reconciliation sure. If God changed to it, he might change from it. And the sheet-anchor of the soul for eternity would then have gone by the board. Forgiveness arose at no point in time. Grace was there before even creation. It abounded before sin did. The holiness which makes sin sin, is one with the necessity to destroy sin in gracious love.
Reconciliation is not the result of a change in God from wrath to love. It flows from the changeless will of a loving God. No other view could make the reconciliation sure. If God changed to it, he might change from it. And the sheet-anchor of the soul for eternity would then have gone by the board. Forgiveness arose at no point in time. Grace was there before even creation. It abounded before sin did. The holiness which makes sin sin, is one with the necessity to destroy sin in gracious love.
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Tuesday, October 01, 2013
Reconciliation
The following is a very long extract from pages 89-93 of P T Forsyth's The Work of Christ. Because it's all of a piece, it's difficult to extract anything shorter. I've re-paragraphed it (not necessarily in places Forsyth would have chosen) otherwise it appear even longer in a blog post.
You have thus three stages in this
magnificent verse. God’s reconciliation rests upon this, that on his eternal
son, who knew no sin in his ex Christ was made sin
for us, as he could never have been if he had been made a sinner. It was sin
that had to be judged, more even than the sinner, in a world-salvation; and God
made Christ sin in this sense, that God as it were took him in the place of
sin, rather than of the sinner, and judged the sin upon him; and in putting him
there he really put himself there in our place (Christ being what he was); so
that the divine judgement of sin was real and effectual. That is, it fell where it was perfectly
understood, owned, and praised , and had the sanctifying effect of judgement,
the effect of giving holiness at last its own.
perience (although he knew more about sin that
any man who has ever lived), sin’s judgement fell. Him who knew no sin by
experience, God made sin. That is to say, God by Christ’s own consent
identified him with sin in treatment though not in feeling. God did not judge
him, but judged sin upon his head. He never once counted him sinful; he was
always well please with him; it was part, indeed, of his own holy self-complacency.
Reconciliation, then, has no meaning apart from a sense of
guilt, that guilt which is involved in our justification....I want to note here
that it means not so much that God is reconciled, but that God is the
reconciler. It is the neglect of that truth
which has produced so much scepticism in the matter of the atonement. So much
of our orthodox religion has come to talk as though God were reconciled by a
third part. We lose sight of this great central verse, ‘God was in Christ reconciling
the world unto himself.’ As we are both
living persons, that means that there was reconciliation on God’s side as well
as ours; but wherever it was, it was effected by God himself in himself.
In what sense was God reconciled within himself? We come to that surely as we see that the
first charge upon reconciling grace is to put away guilt, reconciling by not
imputing trespasses. Return to our cardinal verse, II Corinthians 5 v 19, [God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting
people’s sins against them]. In reconciliation the ground for God’s
wrath or God’s judgement was put away. Guilt rest on God’s charging up sin;
reconciliation rests upon God’s non-imputation of sin; God’s non-imputation of
sin rests upon Christ being made sin for us.
You have thus three stages in this
magnificent verse. God’s reconciliation rests upon this, that on his eternal
son, who knew no sin in his ex Christ was made sin
for us, as he could never have been if he had been made a sinner. It was sin
that had to be judged, more even than the sinner, in a world-salvation; and God
made Christ sin in this sense, that God as it were took him in the place of
sin, rather than of the sinner, and judged the sin upon him; and in putting him
there he really put himself there in our place (Christ being what he was); so
that the divine judgement of sin was real and effectual. That is, it fell where it was perfectly
understood, owned, and praised , and had the sanctifying effect of judgement,
the effect of giving holiness at last its own.
God made him to be sin in treatment though
not in feeling, so that holiness might be perfected in judgement, and we might
become the righteousness of God in him; so that we might have in God’s sight righteousness by our living union with Christ, righteousness which did not
belong to us actually, naturally, and finally.
Our righteousness is as little ours individually as the sin of Christ
was his. The thief on the cross, for instance – I do not suppose he would have
turned what we call a saint if he had survived; though saved, he would not have
become sinless all at once. And the great saint, Paul, had sin working in him
long after his conversion. Yet by union with Christ they were made God’s righteousness, they were integrated into the new goodness; God made them
partakers of his eternal love to the ever-holy Christ. That is a most wonderful thing. Men like
Paul, and far worse men than Paul, by the grace of God, and by a living faith,
became partakers of that same eternal love which God from everlasting and to
everlasting bestowed upon his only-begotten Son. It is beyond words.
It was not a case of wiping a slate. Sin is
graven in. You cannot wipe off sin. It goes into the tissue of the spiritual
being. And it alters things for both parties. Guilt affected both God and man. It
was not a case of destroying an unfortunate prejudice we had against God. it
was not a case of putting right a misunderstanding we had of God. ‘You are
afraid of God,’ you hear easy people say; ‘it is a great mistake to be afraid
of God. there is nothing to be afraid of. God is love.’ But there is everything
in the love of God to be afraid of. Love
is not holy without judgement. It is the love of holy God that is consuming
fire. It was not simply a case of changing our method, or thought, our
prejudices, or moral direction of our soul. It was not a case of giving us
courage when we were cast down, showing us how groundless our depression was. It
was not that. If that were all it would be a comparatively light matter.
If that were all, Paul could only have
spoke about the reconciliation of single souls, not about reconciliation of the
whole world as a unity. He could not have spoken about a finished
reconciliation to which every age of the future was to look back as its
glorious and fontal [pertaining to the source] past. In the words of that verse which I am constantly
pressing, ‘God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.’
Observe first, ‘the world’ is the unity
which corresponds to the reconciled unity of ‘himself’; and second, that he was
not trying, not taking steps to provide means of reconciliation, not opening
doors of reconciliation if we would only walk in at them, not labouring toward
reconciliation, not (according to the unhappy phrase) waiting to be gracious,
but ‘God was in Christ reconciling’ actually reconciling, finishing the work. It
was not a tentative, preliminary affair (Romans xi 15 [for if the casting away
of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be,
but life from the dead?]). Reconciliation was finished in Christ’s
death. Paul did not preach a gradual reconciliation. He preached what the old
divines used to call the finished work. He did not preach a gradual
reconciliation which was to become the reconciliation of the world only
piecemeal, as men were induced to accept it, or were affected by the gospel. He
preached something done once for all – a reconciliation which is the base of
every soul’s reconciliation, not an invitation only. What the church has to do
is to appropriate the thing that has been finally and universally done.
We have to enter upon the reconciled
position, on the new creation. Individual men have to enter upon that
reconciled position, that new covenant, that new relation, which already, in
virtue of Christ’s Cross, belonged to the race as a whole. I will even use for
convenience’ sake the word totality. (People turn up their noses at a word like
that, and they say it smells of philosophy. Well, philosophy has not a bad
smell! You cannot have a proper theology unless you have a philosophy. You cannot
accurately express the things that theology handles most deeply. The misfortune
of our ministry is that it comes to theology without the proper preliminary
culture – with a pious or literary culture only. ) I am going to use this word
totality, and say that the first bearing of Christ’s work was upon the race as
a totality. The first thing reconciliation does is to change man’s corporate relation
to God. Then when it is taken home individually it changes our present
attitude. Christ, as it were, put us into the eternal Church; the Holy Spirit
teaches us how to behave properly in the Church.
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Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Destroying the narratives
Violence tries to destroy the narratives that sustain people's identities and substitute narratives of its own. These might be called narratives of the lie, precisely because they are intended to negate the truth of a people's own narratives.
Robert J. Schreiter
Reconciliation
Robert J. Schreiter
Reconciliation
Saturday, November 21, 2009
Reconciliation
Although it is not always socially acceptable, not always popular, we are called to the ministry of reconciliation. We have been entrusted with a specific message -- that Jesus Christ died to reconcile us to God and to each other. The two things were accomplished at the same time, in the same act of salvation ... This is our story, and we have a mandate to tell it.
- Brenda Salter McNeil, from her book A Credible Witness
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